Stop that meditation now!
OK, don't read this post if you're likely to be offended by graphic material. I know that's like an invitation for some of you, much like the PG certification of some movies.
Dangers of Meditation
Follow the link that describes the dangers to your sexuality
. OK, I did jump to that link first, I'll admit it.
That's right, meditation is sooooo gay.
AND, it is sooo French, er... Freedom.
How come my yoga teachers are named Victoria, Carol (and no, they aren't male. I know what you're thinking).
Things get more graphic as Buddhist philosophy is discussed...
OK, if that left you wanting more, follow the link and read it yourself. He (It's a man) then explains that Buddhist monks are the best in fellatio! And then, the piece de resistance, a picture with title Woman worshipping the penis of a naked sadhu that's obviously Western.
Then there's the mandatory reference to the Lingam. The author's own experiences are now introduced
and it goes on.
This person's site provides a fine example of what happens to you when you do a PhD, or, as a friend points out, when you meditate too much :-)
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Dangers of Meditation
Follow the link that describes the dangers to your sexuality
. OK, I did jump to that link first, I'll admit it.
There did not used to be straight and gay. There were "householders," people who worked and were married and maintained houses, and there were "monks," who were single and lived in groups of men, and wore really chic robes.
That's right, meditation is sooooo gay.
I have done thousands of pujas over the years, and I am always stunned at the fabulousness...
AND, it is sooo French, er... Freedom.
The downside to all this specialness is that regular people get the feeling they are not good enough to meditate, and that they have to accessorize extensively first. You can't just sit down in your old jeans and meditate, you have to wear the right silk, and you can't just meditate any old way you feel, you have to do the technique taught by a teacher whose name sounds exactly as foreign as a French fashion designer. You don't practice the "Joe Smith" technique. No, you wear only Louis Vuitton and Prada, and you only practice the meditations taught by Chetsang Rimpoche.
How come my yoga teachers are named Victoria, Carol (and no, they aren't male. I know what you're thinking).
Things get more graphic as Buddhist philosophy is discussed...
Once Buddha was approached by a monk with a penis so long that he could suck on it. Obviously, having sex with a woman was a sin, but what was wrong with sucking on his own cock? It is recorded in the scriptures that Buddha ruled that sucking on your own cock is a sin. A different monk had a penis so long that he could fuck himself in the ass. He approached Buddha respectfully and asked, "Sir, is this a sin?" Buddha ruled that yes, this was a sin.
OK, if that left you wanting more, follow the link and read it yourself. He (It's a man) then explains that Buddhist monks are the best in fellatio! And then, the piece de resistance, a picture with title Woman worshipping the penis of a naked sadhu that's obviously Western.
Then there's the mandatory reference to the Lingam. The author's own experiences are now introduced
A couple of years after the 1971 Majorca course, I was in Switzerland on a meditation course, and found out for myself what a delight sex in the afternoon is when your days are spent in meditation and doing yoga asanas....
and it goes on.
This person's site provides a fine example of what happens to you when you do a PhD, or, as a friend points out, when you meditate too much :-)
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posted by Kurma at 8/02/2006 04:05:00 PM
8 Comments:
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Thanks for the link :)
The *best* eCard I ever received was about chakras. It had a drawing of a woman (in lotus position, natch) with the chakras in the appropriate color superimposed on her body. You could roll over each one and find out more about it. The cherry on top was a voice in the background stage whispering "ssssssssssssssssssssssshAKRAS!!!!"
Awesome.
I can relate to what she said here;
"As a result of cultivating sensitivity, they start to hate everyone. Because they see themselves as spiritual, everyone else is unspiritual in some way and fallen, except for certain spiritual heroes, who would be the dead Asian males on their altars, and maybe one living Asian male. Then they cover this disgust with humanity with a veneer of compassion or tolerance, and there they go – a person with artificial layers, who even 20 years later is irritable. The irritability shows up in problems forming lasting human relationships and a complicated internal balancing act.
I have to reach here to develop a language to talk about the dynamics. The basic pattern is that the individual has learned to manipulate their internal rhythms through meditation. As part of a spiritual attitude, they suppress their natural dislike of other people. This lowers their guard, dissolves their boundaries. As a result of having too-permeable boundaries, they experience other people as a really "getting under their skin." As a result of this irritation, they find they don't want to be around people. But they get lonely, so they have to be around people. Then they resent the people they are around."
......... However, such attitudes are found in the beginning stages of spiritual progress. Granted, many people may not move beyond this stage their whole life.
Regarding inability to form lasting relationships, the fact is that NO relationship in this temporary world is lasting in the same form as when we entered it.
I don't see what's wrong with the attitude - I will continue to be with this person as long as we both are growing spiritually and benefitting one another. If and when that ceases, we will respectfully part.
When one is on a spiritual or religious path, one must pick and choose the type of people they want to surround themself with, people who share the same goal and who support them in reaching their goal.
I don't see anything dysfunctional with that. It's called being real and practical.
The beginning of his analysis of the effects of meditation or monk-like lifestyle on sexuality resonated with me and made some sense, up to the point where he then went on to describe his exploits and the exploits of others in various ashrams, which then just turned into a circus.
He did have some valid points in the beginning though, but I don't think his analysis is entirely correct.
I would say he's making far more money being an "anti-guru" guru to disillusioned ex-cultists from the West than any of the monks, swamis or gurus coming out of India and Tibet.
He saw an untapped market and worked it, thats for sure!
Word, Pardesi Gori! This man will teach you 'how to do it right' and probably make lots of money in the process. I find it very strange that he claims Hinduism and Buddhism cause negative feelings in one towards sex and 'kill your passion'.
"I find it very strange that he claims Hinduism and Buddhism cause negative feelings in one towards sex and 'kill your passion'."
I don't find it strange. Hinduism has the concept of "brahmacharya", which means celibacy on 7 different levels. Chastity in mind, word, thought, deed, etc.
Buddhism also has a strong monastic culture at it's core.
Believe me, I have seen these wreak havoc in the lives of spiritual practicioners, if not approached in a healthy and balanced way, which is a rare approach attained only after sufficient time and maturity.
That's why ALOT of the stuff he said in the beginning of his analysis really rang true to my experience and the experience of alot of people I know, even MARRIED Indian couples, or married non-Indian couples who are deeply involved in some form of Hinduism.
Sure, Hinduism has the concept of brahmacharya. But it's also has many other phases. The Mahabharata, for instance has plenty of references to physical desire. As for monastic culture, why single out Hinduism and Buddhism? The Abrahamic religions, in general seem to take an approach that's even closer to "non-reproductive sex is sin".
What's Roche upto, anyway? It seems that he is arguing both opposing positions a) Hinduism is against liking sex and b) Hinduism is full of sex that "decent" people would revolting. That said, I can certainly see how the Eastern religions can be misinterpreted as asking one to refrain from sex, although I don't personally know of anyone who was wrecked by it.
Not totally wrecked, but adversely affected, I would say.
When you have a very sexually conservative culture, one with many taboos, then you have religious systems which idealize celibacy, those two added together can have some pretty damaging affects, such as creating a culture of denial, which you have noted elsewhere, in regards to topics like homosexuality, AIDS, child molestation, marital rape, etc.
This affects not only people born into that culture, but people born outside of it who later on adopt one of it's religions and may spend alot of time living in the country/culture or mixing with people from there.
Most of all it's the SHAME surrounding the topic of any type of sexuality. Forget sexuality, even male-female friendships are called into question and assigned their appropriate place in the SHAME MAHAL.
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